Joker: Folie a Deux
Joker : Folie à Deuxhas a few connections to Batman lore , but I ’m disappointed that it desert one of its coolest changes from the first film . Joker 2is not a stock comic Koran film , and follows its predecessor by being a slow - pace criminal offense thriller - but this metre while balancing also being a melodic . There were Bob Hope that the flick would serve as a follow - up that preserve Arthur ’s shift into Joker , but that ’s not strictly what happened . Outside a few cite to Gotham , like introducingJoker 2 ’s Harvey Dent , the subsequence is almost completely severed from itsDCties .
What ’s frustrating aboutJoker 2is that it does n’t do much with its comic book ties . It render some interesting change , such asHarley Quinn ’s blood story , but these change intend she resemble Harley essentially in name only . She does n’t be that office , similar to how Arthur Fleck does n’t fully substantiate the Joker . The firstJokerteased Arthur ’s impending full transmutation into the Joker , even setting up an interesting connection between Fleck and Bruce Wayne . However , the sequel retcons that relationship , making Batman ’s bloodline alteration pointless .
Joker Slightly Changed Batman’s Origin Story
Joker connected Batman’s origin story to the clown prince of crime.
2019’sJokerestablished an intriguing relationship with Arthur and the Wayne house . Arthur get a letter from his female parent , take he is Thomas Wayne ’s illegitimate Logos , possibly adjust up that Bruce and Arthur are half - brothers . However , the story is seemingly later revealed to have been fabricated by his female parent , who crop as a housekeeper for the Waynes . Still , it make Arthur to interact with Bruce , and he was also partially responsible for his parent ’s deaths , as they were killed by a Joker rioter rather of a random burglar .
This is n’t the first time Batman ’s origins have been changed . 1989’sBatmanrevealed thatJack Nicholson ’s Joker bump off Batman ’s parent , ground that Jack Napier was responsible for Batman ’s rise and thus his own downfall . Arthur does n’t defeat Thomas and Martha directly , but the riots set off by his slaying of Murray Franklin led to the Waynes ' dying . It ’s an interesting variety that create a personal connexion between Arthur and Bruce . alas , that was sabotaged byJoker 2 .
Joker 2’s Ending Makes Arthur’s Connection To Bruce Wayne Insignificant
Arthur’s death spoils any tie between him and Batman.
TheJoker 2endingsees Arthur renouncing his personal identity as Joker and render to prison . While there , another inmate fatally stab him , echo the ill-famed " You get what you f***ing deserve " argument Arthur tell before killing Murray Franklin in the first moving picture . As Arthur lies on the background dying , the inmate carve a grinning on his face , inferring that the Joker legacy will hold on through him . It ’s a controversial conclusion that confirms Arthur was never the real Joker , but the movement he make take to the rise of the Joker who will finally fight Batman .
Joker : Folie à Deux has a shock ending that seems ego - explanatory on the Earth’s surface , but it ’s a bit more complex than you mean .
I ’m disappointed with this ending for a few reasons . It ’s a tinny style to razz a future Joker , and take out almost any connection that the Joker we ’ve been follow has with Batman . The idea that Joker ’s revolution caused Batman is interesting , and it was prissy to believe that the chaos of that riot inspired a vernal Bruce Wayne to eventually pick up the city . The subsequence ending also ruinsJokerslightly , since it induce the alteration to Batman ’s origin unneeded for provide a final twist in the film ’s last moments .
Even Thomas Wayne’s Death Was Barely Mentioned in Joker 2
The fallout of Thomas Wayne’s death was shockingly absent.
Thomas Wayne was one of the most influential figures in Gotham . He was a billionaire whose business loomed large , and his foundation run many charities throughout the urban center . He was also a mayoral prospect who had a effective luck of winning before he was killed . His death in the Joker bacchanal should have caused a massive fallout in Gotham . In addition to Arthur ’s murders , Thomas ' last should have been watch as a understanding why Arthur needed to stay on behind measure , as Fleck ’s actions spark violence that led to the dying of a Gotham titan .
However , Joker : Folie à Deuxbarely mentions Thomas ' or Martha ’s deaths . astonishingly , Harvey Dent never used it to put forward fellow feeling from the jury or emphasize the peril of the Joker symbol . It was also never note on Gotham news internet . WhileJoker 2does take place two years after the firstJoker , it ’s surprising that Thomas ' last would n’t be a massive talking point hem in Arthur ’s tryout , make it all the more strange how much of the Wayne storyline from the first picture the subsequence ignored .
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