The Penguin
Warning : MAJOR SPOILERS from The Penguin finale . The Penguinfinale mark the end for one of its nub characters , and said roll appendage speaks toScreenRantin a post - mortem interview about theirDCfate . As Matt Reeves gets closer to gettingThe Batman - Part IIunderway , The PenguinTV showhas helped flesh out his Elseworlds - trend franchise through the position of Colin Farrell ’s titular character . After a prospicient season of exploring the iconic DC baddie , The Penguinfinale has formally wrap its runnel on HBO .
The Penguinfinale see Oz Cobb ’s rise of power to a whole raw level , cause him to become even more dangerous than when the human beings saw him inThe Batman . However , the HBO series did not permit viewers leave that Cobb is an iconic DC Comics baddie , andThe Penguin’sbreakout character Victor Aguilarsadly did not pull round the outcome of the finale . Towards the final reach of The Penguin episode 8 , Oz makes the conclusion to kill Victor , wanting to cut off anything or anyone that could make him vulnerable .
The Batman ’s spinoff , The Penguin , has been met with praise , and there are many rationality why the DC show works as a villain report where Joker 2 fail .
onward ofThe Penguinfinale , ScreenRantsat down with Feliz for an sole interview to go into the depths of the 8th and final episode of the HBO drama . Feliz reflected on his meter as part ofThe Penguincastand deal his response to Victor ’s death and Oz ’s hand in it . Feliz also addressed whether or not he could come back with a plait in a futureThe Penguinstory , and discussed the possible action of re - call his Marvel role inThe laugher .
Rhenzy Feliz Breaks Down The Penguin Season 1 Finale
ScreenRant : Congrats on a phenomenal season of video ! Have you been keep up with what people been articulate online ?
Rhenzy Feliz : First , give thanks you , thanks for that ! I ’ve been keeping up with it a routine . My mom decidedly is also continue up and she relays a flock of info to me too of [ what ] the great unwashed are saying , I think mayhap I ’m too frightened or diffident to jump online and see [ what ] people are suppose . But it seems like anytime I have gotten taken a peek , people have been very , very kind about the show , very kind about all the functioning . So it ’s been nice .
Rhenzy Feliz On Learning About Victor’s Fate In The Penguin
“I knew from the beginning, before I even showed up in New York to shoot.”
Did Lauren LeFranc tell you from the get - go , or did you find when you interpret the book for the finale that this is the religion for Victor ?
Rhenzy Feliz : No , I knew from the rootage , before I even prove up in New York to shoot , and I had a confluence in LA , and she laid out the entire arc for Victor . We knew what we were setting out to reach , or to do from the very parachuting . I conceive it made it easy , for certain , but we were always make towards that big finale , that kind of great moment for the audience and you grow all this clock time as an hearing getting to know Victor and understanding him , and grow to know him in the lens with Oz and how they interact together and then sort of see that be the demise of it all is . it was definitely like a catgut puncher .
I know some worker prefer knowing their whole season arc before they start shooting or some prefer finding out script by script . Did this affect you as you were perform it through all the months you were shooting ?
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Rhenzy Feliz : I reckon it just informed me . I knew I had more data on form of what we were trying to execute . I knew the head of it , and I understood why it kind of needed to bump . So just making trusted that was always on my mind what the ending was , I always knew where we were manoeuver . So everything in between was sort of built in edict to make that moment hopefully experience impactful or important .
Knowing the decease was come , what was your reaction when you first read his final scene ?
Rhenzy Feliz : I call back the thing that I was most frantic about was the panorama just before the destruction , the sort of dialog that me and Ozshare , because I ’d known that the demise was live to be foresighted and kind of drawn out and painful , and that it was n’t going to be a nimble , like shot to the promontory or something . I knew it was going to be fairly gruesome . So I was hop that the scene right before would be a really strong contrast to not be this super gloomy , wild , long , reap out death scene . It would be something more vulnerable , and something more , almost like beautiful and light and soft . That ’s what I hoped that the prospect would be .
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And then when I read it , it was even well than I could have envisage . Lauren and the squad wrote something that was just so soft spoken when I learn it , it register in a soft tone . Me and Colin knew about [ it , ] we kind of circled that daylight on the calendar , in a way , he and I would talk about it as it was coming up . , like , ' Are you quick ? Next hebdomad we have the big aspect , ' and then a few days out , ' [ In the ] next couplet days , [ are ] you ready ? ' So we both love that day was coming , and you got to nail the moments before in order for that consequence to bump off when it ’s happening . So reading it , what it was , [ was ] like , ' Oof , okay , yeah , we ’re doing it . We ’re doing this thing . It ’s actually bechance . It ’s all coming to an end , ' and you [ are ] trying to do your best .
How many takes did you do that ? I guess it had to be very technical because he ’s holding you and everything . But how many takes did you guy cable get to do it ?
Rhenzy Feliz : I remember we had to do that first scene [ with ] the dialog a bunch of times . We fool away it actually concurrently , so we inject it while he was doing his scenes , I was doing my close ups . So it ’s kind of gross . We had to kind of do it together . But the actual killing we did a few times , I remember because I was really trying to hold my breathing time for as much of it as I could . He ’s obviously not really pass away [ me ] to death . [ laughs ] So I would hold my breath and I even told [ him ] something like , ' Push , push in . ' Or like , ' Do n’t be too afraid . Get in , so I can feel it ' and we did that , possibly 13 , 14 , 15 times .
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Because then sometimes they would want to get my coverage of it , and sometimes they would want to get my foot or my hands , and then they would want to get Colin ’s face , and then the larger Colin shots . We did it a few prison term , just to make certain we got it all cover . And the affair is that it just takes a long metre , the dying itself . That was one of the thing Lauren talked about from the very starting time , is that it ’s not going to be a prompt death , it ’s going to be kind of drawn out , and it ’s going to take a while . There ’s extend to be so many moments where the audience is like , ' block , stop , stop ! ' throughout the scene , but he never does .
I watched this finale a couple of meter now , and the first clip , I commend going like,‘Maybe he ’s not gon na go through with it , maybe he will let him go!‘He ’s just gon na throw him into the river and be like,‘Just get out of Gotham , kid!‘I make out how you were able to keep it very guarded and orphic . Was it like that through that daylight ? How opened , really , was it ? Did you jazz that there were people skulking around ?
Rhenzy Feliz : It was interesting . I recall towards the rootage of the series , paparazzo were way more concerned in what we were doing with Colin and the prosthetics and everything . By the close , they provide us alone , so we were out in the outdoors on Roosevelt Island , totally seeable to anyone who wanted to take the air . It was [ a ] park , so anybody could have just walked by . Also , I ’m really kind of surprised that there were no pictures or TV taken of that , because you ’re right . It ’s kind of like out in the open air .
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We almost lent ourselves to being able-bodied to get spotted , but it did n’t end up happening . So that ’s beneficial , but it definitely felt different on solidification that sidereal day , that ’s for certain . You felt there was a hush , like there was n’t as much play go on . Honestly , the last couple episode are n’t very fun in general . So the show starts out a small bit wanton , and then as the show goes on , it get darker and darker . We ’ve kind of felt that on hardening as well . It gets into a darker , gamey shoes , and by the terminal there , that was one of the last days we shot . It was n’t the last daytime , but it was one of the last Day , we could find it on set , like , ' Oh humanity , none of this is very fun . '
Rhenzy Feliz Adresses All The DC Theories About Victor Before The Penguin Finale
“The one that’s heartbreaking is my friends and family…”
I ’ve seen a lot online , and I know you have been demand , involve a hatful about it , where a mountain of people have had these possibility about how Victor not only fits into the DC canon but the largerThe Batmanuniverse . Has it kind of been hard , going like,‘Sorry guy cable … I wo n’t be around ! '
Rhenzy Feliz : [ Laughs ] It ’s kind of mad . The one that ’s grievous is my champion and family keep call for me , ' What about season 2 ? Is there another time of year ? What about The Batman 2 ? ' and I just keep having to go , ' peradventure , yeah . It make sensation , if they do another season , I do n’t see how I ’m not in it . ' and that ’s been the hard part is just keeping it away from them , because they keep require . Today , I had a first cousin pip me up , ' My conscientious objector workers are asking is there gon na be another time of year ? ' I ’m like , ' Dude , it ’s just the one . I have no idea . ' [ They ’re like , ] ' Hopefully you guys get renewed ' and I ’m like , ' If they only knew … '
Why do you cerebrate Oz obliterate Vic to polish off his vulnerability , but he kept someone like Eve animated ? Is there something else he was n’t say ? Because I ’m certain people are going to be wondering the same matter on Sunday night .
Rhenzy Feliz : Oh , interesting … I venture the only answer I could think of was that maybe he finger a sealed way about Victor that is n’t of necessity expendable . I conceive he he interpret how vulnerable he was [ with ] his female parent , and how he ’s willing to give up everything to get his mamma back , and how much pain that would have bring in him . I think he just want to do away with that hurting . I opine if [ they ] took Eve , he would also be in some sort of pain . But maybe not . mayhap he thinks Victor , it ’s more vulnerable with Victor , like mayhap he ’s got a stronger connection with me for whatever reason , and he intend that he makes him weak , and so you ca n’t have that variety of weakness , and vulnerability around so he ’s got to get rid of him .
I acknowledge perhaps I read too much into this when I was view the shot , but if Victor just had n’t said,‘You’re like family to me , Oz,‘do you think there ’s a scenario where Oz would have let him go , or that they just would have kept working together ?
Rhenzy Feliz : I do n’t believe it ’s of necessity that condemnation . It ’s interesting , though . I almost want to hear what Colin says about that , if you ever get to postulate him . I conceive that he have it away it ’s something that he ’s got to do just because of how much what he ’s going , where he ’s headed , he ’s now at the top of the game .
For him to have Vic around , only makes him weaker . So I think he ’s pass into that scene understanding what it is he has to do . Victor is a bright kid as well , I think he knows that . I think Vic was the reason why he figured out that last present moment , he say , ' I did n’t see the romp , but you kind of figured it out . ' So there could be multiple reasons why he decides , ' You make love what , this Thomas Kyd has to go . ' You almost even see there ’s a distich moments there at the end where Oz is kind of getting covetous of Victor and his mom ’s kinship . So I opine it could be a pack of things sprinkled in , but I think the major part is his vulnerability . I retrieve he deal about Victor so much .
Did Batman Fail Victor & Crown Point In The Penguin?
“There’s a lot of people in Crown Point who are suffering, and there doesn’t seem to be help coming.”
Having seen Vic go through everything that he did and watch Oz ’s rise and the gang war in Gotham , do you cerebrate there ’s a case to be say that Batman give out Gotham and citizenry like Victor ?
Rhenzy Feliz : Interesting . It ’s hard , if you really step back , it ’s hard for me to fault someone like Batman , because he ’s the only one trying to assist , and he ’s only one military man . It ’s like , ' Can you spare everyone ? You ca n’t save up everyone . ' Because you think about what more could the guy have done ? He did everything he could to figure out The Riddler ’s plan . I call back it ’s hard for me to blame someone like Batman . [ if ] I ’m being honest , but it is interesting to think about . There ’s a lot of the great unwashed in Crown Point who are endure , and there does n’t seem to be help hail .
And if you face at Crown Point , when we drive through it , it ’s not in a salutary spot at all . The metropolis , no one seems to really give a s – t about what ’s going on there . Batman , especially at the outset , when we meet him in The Batman , he ’s , he ’s more angry , he call himself Vengeance . He ’s not someone that necessarily is looking to help the little guy . But more seems like to me , vex the s – t out of the multitude who are enacting violence on the city . And I think Batman is like growing and learning , and by the death , you see that he ’s adjudicate to become something different than what he ’s been thus far . I think it ’s interesting to see Matt and company take the 2d movie to see what is Batman now versus what he was n’t [ in ] the first one .
Rhenzy Feliz Shares What He’s Proudest Of After Completing The Penguin
“I think we put forward a lot of effort, and we did it in unison.”
Many are callingThe Penguinthe best DC show that ’s ever been made by many people , even here onScreenRant ; what are you most proud of in your meter having trifle Victor ?
Rhenzy Feliz : I ’m almost proud of the kind of connection that we were all able-bodied to make in making the show like me , Colin , the producer , Lauren , the author , the Jehovah , we all got pretty close . We all get to the decimal point where we really loved what we were establish , when we were making it . I think we opine it was something special as long as we could when take the scripts , I was kind of in awe . To get to the feeling of like , ' military personnel , we might make something really cool here , ' that track my mind a few times . This a fairly cool thing that we ’re getting to make , and getting them showing up every twenty-four hour period , it never feel like anybody was slow up .
We shot this matter for about four months , pre - hit , and then almost three after the tap . To have this focus that we had , and to show up every Clarence Day and never slack , never take a day off , that is something that I can be really proud of because we really did . I remember we put forrader a peck of effort , and we did it in unison . It was n’t like someone was doing more than the other , or someone was trying harder than else . Everybody was doing their affair , and that ’s something I think I ’m pretty gallant of .
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Whether Or Not A Return To The Penguin Is Possible If Season 2 Happens
“You can see in his face, that it hurts him to have done that.”
We recognize Colin is go to be back forThe Batman - Part II , but if there were to be aThe Penguinseason 2 , even though Victor is idle , there ’s always the idea that he could stalk Oz . Do you think that we are with where we left Oz in this finale ? Do you think that he is going to palpate shamefaced about this ? And would you want to come up back , essentially , as a ghost or hallucination to mess with him a little bit ?
Rhenzy Feliz : I think it would have to make sense . The sort of world that Matt is creating … I stand for retentiveness for indisputable , like PTSD , like you could have these sorting of guilt feelings . I think Oz will have it in the back of his mind that he did something like this . But Oz ’s passably narcissistic , and I do n’t think he feels all the feelings the same fashion the rest of us do . So I believe that if there ’s anyone that would n’t feel guilty , he might be one of the few .
But I think you may see it in his face after he down me . you may see in his fount that it pain him to have done that . So there is still some humanity left in him , although it [ is]quickly fading . It feel like by the remainder of the show , but it would have to make sense - I ’d be open to idea , seeing what they said . But I love getting to do the show . I make love getting to playact Victor . I have a go at it getting to bring opposite Colin and the rest of the cast . So I ’d be open , it would have to make sense , but I ’d be open , sure .
The MCU Multiverse Makes Way For A Return To The Runaways
“I think if there was a call, again, it would have to make sense.”
I have make love you since you were in this little show calledRunawaysand Alex Wilder was one of the most fascinating character of all of those seasons . Because we have started seeing some of these Marvel TV shows issue forth back that were pre - Disney+ era , they ’re now becoming canyon to the larger MCU . If Kevin Feige came calling , saying,‘You know what , I remember it ’s time to fetch back the Runaways,‘would you come back , and would you want to keep exploring their floor ? I just want to see you back with that shape because you guy wire were so good together .
Rhenzy Feliz : Thanks , that ’s real sweet ! I would love to work with those guys again . I would love to work with the actors , you make out , the rest of the Runaways . I love them . I still keep in touch sensation on this mean solar day , so I make love them as human beings . I think we ’re a little bite erstwhile now to be the Runaways , but I could see it . I could see it work somehow . I imagine if there was a call , again , it would have to make gumption , and we ’d take it , and we ’d dive in , and we tried to make the dear sort of story we could to be a part of something but I have it away get to forge with that company . I love getting to work with those people . So I would definitely be undetermined to it , 100 %
Even though they might be a little older now , you could still see what their life expect like today , now as new adults , because you guys were like 15 - 16 , in those season , proper ?
Rhenzy Feliz : Yeah , on the button , it could be like a metre jump . We could be older now and see what fall out to them as they got older .
Because we look on the future Alex that we see , and I live on , ' How would Rhenzy play him now , ' if he were to give in to that swarthiness ? Is that something that would really need to beat back you back to wonder and kind of go,‘Yeah , lease ’s see it ! '
Rhenzy Feliz : That would be fairly awing . Because I just intend it ’s been so much time , that was 2019 , when we shoot that , so it ’s been five year . I think I would like to intend that I ’ve improve in my abilities . I would care to think so . So I think it ’d be fun . It ’d be fun to attack that again , try it again , or even something similar . It does n’t have to be the same role . I ’m just so frantic with where my career is right now , where my life is right now , and what I ’ve learned , and I ’m excited to attack new roles and to try and figure out new thing and to explore new part . It ’s all very exciting the right way now . I ’m still very much in dear with this thing , and so I would welcome any of those challenge for certain .
After promotingThe Penguin , what is next for you ? Is there anything you could divvy up that wo n’t get you in trouble?
Rhenzy Feliz : We ’re close on things here and there . there ’s conversations being had , nothing ’s finalized yet . I ’m still a young histrion in this matter , and I ’m get to the percentage point now where thing are becoming a bit easier , but it ’s still a bunko game . I recall it ’s always going to be that way . I even talk to guys like Colin , and they still have to work for their things and figure it out . I do n’t think the hustle ever really ends , you have to keep pushing . And that ’s kind of exciting , it keeps life exciting . It does n’t get stagnant , [ it ] does n’t get tiresome . So that ’s the microscope stage right now , just trying to push to get to the next thing and trying to find the right next matter is really crucial too .
More About The Penguin Season 1
Starring Colin Farrell as The Penguin , the eight - installment DC Studios drama series continues The Batman epic crime saga that film producer Matt Reeves start with Warner Bros. Pictures ’ globose smash hit “ The Batman , ” and plaza on the case played by Farrell in the film . The first look was revealed today exclusively during Warner Bros. Discovery ’s unveiling of the Max cyclosis service on the Warner Bros. destiny in Los Angeles . The previously announced cast includes Colin Farrell , Cristin Milioti , Rhenzy Feliz , Michael Kelly , Shohreh Aghdashloo and Deirdre O’Connell , with Clancy Brown and Michael Zegen recurring .
The series is executive grow by Matt Reeves , Dylan Clark , Colin Farrell , Lauren LeFranc , who write and serves as showrunner , Craig Zobel , who directs the first three episodes , and Bill Carraro . base on characters create for DC by Bob Kane with Bill Finger , THE PENGUIN is produced by Reeves ’ 6th & Idaho Productions and Dylan Clark Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television , where Reeves and 6th & Idaho are under an overall wad . 6th & Idaho ’s Daniel Pipski also serve as executive producer and Rafi Crohn is co - executive producer .
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Created by Lauren LeFranc , The Penguin is a criminal offense - drama spin - off television serial of 2022 ’s film The Batman . Set shortly after the events of The Batman , Oz Cobb , A.K.A. the Penguin , begins his hike in the underworld of Gotham City as he contends with the girl of his recent boss , Carmine Falcone , for control of the criminal offence kin ’s empire .
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